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roger1818

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Re: New X10 Wi-Fi Unit
« Reply #60 on: September 12, 2017, 05:32:20 am »

The new wall switches are a sample of what Authinx has planed for new modules, all will eventually have the new relays and AGC.

What I would like to see is a lamp module that replaces the light switch on the lamp rather than being inserted in series with it (kind of like an LM15A (Socket Rocket) with screw terminals for bare wires instead of an E26 base).  Local control could then be implemented via either a push button or as a touch lamp.  Other options could include dimable (if the heat can be safely dissipated), switched and tri-light.

Another thing I would like to see is adding a traveller wire to the inline modules for adding a local control switch.  This could then be used as a solution for those who don't have a neutral wire in their switch box by using a companion switch with it (the second blue wire on the companion switch isn't really necessary as they are shorted together, it just make wiring easier in various 3-way applications).  It could also be used inside lamps and appliances that have different types of switches:

(X10 could either sell momentary versions of them or just update the firmware to toggle when the switch changes state to allow the use of the existing switch).  This would mean turning the appliance off locally wouldn't disable remote control as the local switch would directly turn the module on and off.
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Re: New X10 Wi-Fi Unit
« Reply #61 on: September 12, 2017, 06:43:32 am »

There is already a dimmable wire in module  xpdf  and a none dimmable XPFM.
However until more miniaturization happens these won't fit in most lamps.
Most purchasers are looking for plug and play so I suspect these will be last on Authinx's to do list.
I'm told there are lots of new modules planned but the Wi-Fi module (hub) development is holding everything up. ??? ::) :`)
I've not been given any details as to what these may be. ???
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Re: New X10 Wi-Fi Unit
« Reply #62 on: September 12, 2017, 07:37:59 am »

There is already a dimmable wire in module  xpdf  and a none dimmable XPFM.

Yes.  I implied that.   My suggesting is adding a traveller wire to them to allow them to be controlled by a companion switch (cheaper and more reliable than an X10 wall transmitter).

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However until more miniaturization happens these won't fit in most lamps.

True, which is why a wired-in variant of the socket rocket I suggested would be more useful for most lamps.

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Most purchasers are looking for plug and play so I suspect these will be last on Authinx's to do list.

So why do they sell wall switch modules and why were they the first to be upgraded?  They aren't plug and play.  If you can change a wall switch you can change a lamp socket or install an inline module.

I would argue most users want improved WAF more than anything else.  The kludgey implementation of  local control of lamp and appliance modules is a huge WAF limitation.  The leakage current needed for the local control method currently used is also problematic with many CFL and LED bulbs.  By adding a local switch, they can eliminate the leakage current and make the module as reliable as the XPS4 and WS469.
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Re: New X10 Wi-Fi Unit
« Reply #63 on: September 12, 2017, 11:44:25 am »

Wall switches were the first to be upgraded as they ran out of stock of those items (so I'm told). ??? ::)

True the WAF is what most current users wish to improve. Maybe some of (hopefully all of) the new module ideas Authinx has in mind do this.
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