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WI-FI Hardware intergration into PCC
« on: April 17, 2013, 05:39:43 am »

I've been looking at adding Wi-Fi LED bulb control as well as Wi-Fi thermostat control the last little bit.
Although this has been inspired from user requests it is something I'll use myself.
Since sending Wi-Fi codes is already something PCC is doing no additional drivers will be needed.
Also this will allow SkinnyGirl to support these as well as TAC. `:)
Also this will allow PCC and TAC to control these without using X10Relayer as a middle man. `:)

LED Wi-Fi Light Bulbs
There are a few manufactures of these bulbs Philips is the big name brand but also the most expensive.
Easybulb is much cheaper and seems to be more versatile.
I've been in contact with EasyBulb and they a sure me a API is in the works.
I've ordered a few bulbs and the WI-FI interface for these so support for this brand will make it into PCC.
For those interested there already is a iPad and Android app for these available.
I've also found code to control these posted by a user using WireShark to sniff out the code.
EasyBulb also has a promotion on right now  4 Easybulb RGB + 1 Wifi Box   gets you a free RGB Remote.
Although I didn't order the RGB bulbs  (cB) PCC will support these.

Wi-Fi thermostats
I had been looking at remote thermostats for a while  but just started to look at the Wi-Fi models.
Most of the remote thermostats I had looked at were a bit pricey and had draw backs.
Honeywell makes a few Wi-Fi models and it appears one can control these from your own network without having to go online.
I haven't dug into these to much and have yet to order one.
However I'd love to hear for anyone that has one.
Also WireShark can be used to sniff out the codes for these units to enable one to Code for these in case anyone is interested.

Other Devices
There are other Wi-Fi enabled devices out there although I have no plans to add support for these at the moment.
If you hear of something or have something of interest please post any info you can find and I'll look into it.
If you really want PCC to support controlling a Wi-Fi enabled device and can't find a SDK or API for it, look at WireShark
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Re: WI-FI Hardware intergration into PCC
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2013, 06:04:04 pm »

Hey T, just to let you know I ordered the 4 -easy bulb set (wifi) so I will be able to assist with testing

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Re: WI-FI Hardware intergration into PCC
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2013, 04:07:01 am »

Good to know as SkinnyGirl will most likely get the options first if not TAC.
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Re: WI-FI Hardware intergration into PCC
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2013, 02:04:24 pm »

Ok I got some white LEDs remote and a Wi-Fi controller today.
I don't expect the RGB bulbs till Monday.
Man the text on manuals just keeps getting smaller and smaller.
After a dozen attempts I finally got the Wi-Fi controller bridged with my router.
It took about the same amount of attempts to get the android app setup. ::) :`)
I found an other android app that should work with the Mi-light bulbs but can't get it to work using codes I found for the bulbs. (cB)
I'll attempt more once I get the RGB bulbs as the code for them is different.
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Re: WI-FI Hardware intergration into PCC
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2013, 10:01:38 am »

Hey T, I received the RGB bulbs yesterday and Have them working with the remote but can't get them to work with the android app or get it to link to my router I will continue to play with them, but one down fall that I am seeing is that all of the RGB bulbs go on and off or change together, you can't select a specific bulb to turn on or atleast from what I can tell.

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Re: WI-FI Hardware intergration into PCC
« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2013, 05:23:16 am »

From what I understand each RGB bulb needs its own remote and to be configured to it.
the white bulbs work differently with a different remote which you can control 4 groups per remote.
the wifi box is a bit of a chore to set up. it took me 4 or 5 tries and it takes longer for the settings to actually take it says a few seconds it is more like a min maybe 2.
Once the wifi is set to your router you can log back onto it using the new IP you assigned it and double check the setting. that's how you'll know you have it setup.
Setting up the android app took a bit to set up but is similar to the remote.
I Just got my RGB bulbs today so I'll be playing with them and experimenting more to see just what I can do with them.

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It would appear the RGB bulbs need a separate Wi-Fi box for each bulb or group you intend to run separate.
the white bulbs work a little differently in that you can control 4 lights or 4 groups individually on one Wi-Fi box if you wish to control more then 4 individual lights or 4 groups of lights you'll need a new Wi-Fi box :(
The web site states you can control a unlimited number of bulbs but no mention of them working individually from a Wi-Fi box.
I noticed the Android app has changed some what from the original  so this may also change with a Wi-Fi box firmware update.
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Re: WI-FI Hardware intergration into PCC
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2013, 05:00:52 am »

I've fired off a email to Easybulb to see if they plan on adding support to control RGB blubs independently.
I think this most likely will require a firmware upgrade to the Wi-Fi controller but we'll see what they report.

While adding code to SkinnyGirl for the EasyBulbs I had to run Wireshark to sniff out the packets being sent  to fine tune code from PCC.
I was able to find the code for putting the LED white lights into a night light mode so I'll add this to the next update.

Playing with Wireshark has given me extra confidence for adding support for other Wi-Fi enabled hardware.
A Thermostat will be next my next project however I'm unsure what to go with just yet.
It most likely will be a Honeywell, I'm hoping all there Wi-Fi models use the same code.
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Re: WI-FI Hardware intergration into PCC
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2013, 06:17:34 am »

I just got a reply back from EasyBulb.
They have a new app in the works which is supposedly going to allow RGB bulb grouping similar to the white bulbs.
It is also said to have a holiday function not sure what that will be. ??? ::) :`)
The new app is to be ready in 2 months.  `:) ~:0~
I've been playing with wireshark to try to figure out how this may be done but now I'll just wait for the app then capture the signal.
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Re: WI-FI Hardware intergration into PCC
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2013, 12:06:35 pm »

That would be awesome if they added the support to be able to control the rgb bulbs seperately.  I noticed that the rgb bulbs are not real bright but they are OK,  Tuicemen you stated that you also got the white bulbs are they brighter than the RGB  :`)

I am excited that Wifi bulbs are being added to PCC

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Re: WI-FI Hardware intergration into PCC
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2013, 12:16:09 pm »

The best I've been able to get out of the RGB bulbs is a off yellow which uses 4 watts.
The white bulbs go from a whiter shade of this to a real white which uses 6 watts so they appear brighter.
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Re: WI-FI Hardware intergration into PCC
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2013, 09:56:19 am »

There is a new MiLight app which appears to allow 4 sets of RGB bulbs to be controlled separately.
MiLight also seems to have a new wifi box but it might just be new firmware. ??? ::) :`)
I've fired off an email to them for some clarification as well as requesting answers to other questions I had.
The New app doesn't work with my Samsung Nexus S  (cB)
I had hoped to test this out so I could add more functions to PCC for these bulbs. :(
Maybe an API will soon be released.
Oh the new  app can be found on the play store by typing in mi-light not milight as suggested on the website.(CZB)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lierda.wificontroller
I'd be interested if anyone can get the new app working on their device.
If so it maybe possible to capture the new commands so these can be added to PCC.
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« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2013, 08:41:19 pm »

There is a new MiLight app which appears to allow 4 sets of RGB bulbs to be controlled separately.
MiLight also seems to have a new wifi box but it might just be new firmware. ??? ::) :`)
I've fired off an email to them for some clarification as well as requesting answers to other questions I had.
The New app doesn't work with my Samsung Nexus S  (cB)
I had hoped to test this out so I could add more functions to PCC for these bulbs. :(
Maybe an API will soon be released.
Oh the new  app can be found on the play store by typing in mi-light not milight as suggested on the website.(CZB)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lierda.wificontroller
I'd be interested if anyone can get the new app working on their device.
If so it maybe possible to capture the new commands so these can be added to PCC.
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I Tried This On Many Different Android DVices And It Doesn't Work On Any Of Them

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Re: WI-FI Hardware intergration into PCC
« Reply #12 on: August 25, 2013, 09:33:27 pm »


Hey T

I Tried This On Many Different Android DVices And It Doesn't Work On Any Of Them

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That's to bad I had thought if anyone could have any luck it would be you.
apparently there is a iphone app as well.
I know in the past you were able to test things on a iphone.
Any chance you can try it on one? ???
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Hey T

I Tried This On Many Different Android DVices And It Doesn't Work On Any Of Them

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That's to bad I had thought if anyone could have any luck it would be you.
apparently there is a iphone app as well.
I know in the past you were able to test things on a iphone.
Any chance you can try it on one? ???

I tested the iphone app tonight with the same results   (cB)  no luck at all I think it might be that the programmer need to look into the apps there must be a flaw in them somewhere

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Re: WI-FI Hardware intergration into PCC
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2013, 12:08:37 pm »

I started looking at WeMo (wifi) Home a
Automation
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I haven't found an API or SDK yet but WireShark should be able to catch the commands from a smartphone.
Looks like this may be the next purchase made when donations start to roll in again.
Hopefully I can test out integration before years end. ;>
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