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Wifi hardware devices.
« on: March 26, 2013, 03:06:49 pm »

There seems to be more and more wifi enabled devices coming on the market.
I've been asked about a few different devices however most want you to use their server and you need internet access.
I'm not fond of that just look at X10s myhouse server. It is never up when you want it.
Some devices are saying they'll make a SDK available but nothing yet.
So I started to do some digging. Most of these devices have a ipad & or android app to interface to them.
So how do we get the wifi code  so it can be added to PCC or other software?
Well there is software to do this.
Once the signals have been intercepted they can be broken down to see just what and how the info is sent to and from the device.
With this info a HA program can be created to control them.
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Re: Wifi hardware devices.
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2013, 03:26:18 pm »

Tuice,

What type of devices are you looking at you know I have been interested in occupancy and tracking for my setup for a long time. 


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Re: Wifi hardware devices.
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2013, 03:34:09 pm »

I'm not looking at anything in particular.
The most recent hardware I was asked about is a wifi programmable thermostat (there are many brands) however Honeywell was what I was asked about.
I've seen led lights and have found the code to send to one brand.
I'm not into using something to sniff out codes unless I have the device.
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Re: Wifi hardware devices.
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2013, 04:05:49 pm »

I have been looking at the Philips hue stuff and was wondering if that is something that could be added.  They look very interesting but they are a little price.  I believe they also have and SDK

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Re: Wifi hardware devices.
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2013, 04:09:52 pm »

If there is a SDK available now then it is a good possibility code could be added.
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Re: Wifi hardware devices.
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2013, 11:01:19 am »

Hey T, the only SDK I noticed for phillips hue  was for iOS  (cB)

But there is an API,  that can be accesses take a look and let me know what you think   :`)

www.http://developers.meethue.com/

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Re: Wifi hardware devices.
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2013, 11:58:23 am »

Hey T, the only SDK I noticed for phillips hue  was for iOS  (cB)

But there is an API,  that can be accesses take a look and let me know what you think   :`)

www.http://developers.meethue.com/

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Doesn't sound to difficult but like you say it is pricey.
Also with out another way to control the lights you'd be in the dark (pun intended) until you figured it out.
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« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2013, 12:58:21 pm »

It is pricey but I have looked at adding a few in areas that are difficult to control because of switching issues.  I have a few ceiling fans I have been looking at adding it to because I leave the fans of for air circulation due to having radiant heat, but the fan and the lights run off of one switch and they are about a extremely high stair case so pulling the string requires an acrobat act to get there.  And pulling wire to there to add a separate switch is almost impossible with out opening up the walls.  That is why I started looking at philips Hue stuff. 

If anyone has other ideas on how to fix this issue I really welcome them  :`) 

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Re: Wifi hardware devices.
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2013, 01:53:41 pm »

Might be cheaper to get a remote ceiling fan  (RoFL)
I have one at my cottage turning the light switch on only turns on the lights and RF receiver turning the switch off turns every thing off.
 
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Re: Wifi hardware devices.
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2013, 01:02:02 pm »

I've been looking into more into wifi lighting.
And this most likely will get added to PCC at some point.  ??? ::) :`)
There are a few brands out there and it looks like MiLight (or EasyBulb) may be the one I go with, as it looks to be more versatile and already has a android app available.
It also is much cheaper then the Philips hue, a pack of 2 6W LED bulbs is $66.99 on Ebay and comes with a remote.
If you wish to use a smartphone you need the wifi controller which is $36.69 on Ebay.
the down side with this brand is each colour changing bulb needs it's own controller. :(
Maybe that will change at some point
This may be what you need for that ceiling fan KENRAD! ::) :`)
http://www.easybulb.com/
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Re: Wifi hardware devices.
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2013, 08:45:07 am »

I've been playing around with EasyBulbs and picked up both the white and RGB bulbs.
Using WireShark I was able to capture data sent to these bulbs from this I made a simple AllOn/AllOff PC app.
This works with both the RGB and White bulbs however it is meant only as a test tool and I will not update it.
EasyBulb is set to release a new version of there android/apple apps in 2 months.
It will (I'm told) have more options then the current official apps and include RGB bulb grouping similar to the white bulbs.
Once the new apps have been released I will add some if not all of the new options to PCC. :)!
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Re: Wifi hardware devices.
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2013, 08:44:44 am »

I noticed easy bulb now has a all in one bulb RGB +white in 6 or 9 watts.
9 Watts sure would make a nicer light.
I'm not sure if these are compatible with the old Wi-Fi box.
I've left messages about this and have yet to hear back.
In any case the Wi-Fi box I currently have appears to need a firmware update to allow the extra features and work with the new android app.
There is no link to a update that I've found yet. (cB)
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« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2013, 06:13:34 pm »

I noticed easy bulb now has a all in one bulb RGB +white in 6 or 9 watts.
9 Watts sure would make a nicer light.
I'm not sure if these are compatible with the old Wi-Fi box.
I've left messages about this and have yet to hear back.
In any case the Wi-Fi box I currently have appears to need a firmware update to allow the extra features and work with the new android app.
There is no link to a update that I've found yet. (cB)


I hope they do come out with a better firmware I have been having alot of issues with mine staying connected to the network and most of the time can't get it to pair with my network.  If anyone has any good tips I'd be very interested I am running the RGB bulbs and have mostly resorted to using the supplied remote because of network connection issues. 

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Re: Wifi hardware devices.
« Reply #13 on: December 06, 2013, 10:29:46 am »

I just got a reply about the new RGBW bulbs.
The new Wi-Fi router is needed to communicate with them.
No response to my request about a firmware update.
I asked about returning the old unit since it isn't a year old I suspect I won't hear anything about that either.


I hope they do come out with a better firmware I have been having alot of issues with mine staying connected to the network and most of the time can't get it to pair with my network.  If anyone has any good tips I'd be very interested I am running the RGB bulbs and have mostly resorted to using the supplied remote because of network connection issues. 

Cheers Ken
I never had any issues with mine at the cottage but it is located right beside my router.
The one here in the city has stopped working with my router.
I've tried to pair it again and again without success  (cB) 
It is  two floors from the router but it worked before. ::) :`)
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