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Re: Low Power PCs
« Reply #30 on: March 20, 2013, 12:07:36 pm »

I've never tested from a flash drive.
It would be better run from a hard drive if possible.
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Re: Low Power PCs
« Reply #31 on: March 20, 2013, 12:14:44 pm »

OK...  I will try installing Pcc to the hard drive and then running from there.  Not sure how much space it needs but I could also try and use the "Junction" concept to re-point the folder that Pcc would use on the c:\ drive to the flash drive and see if that works too...

Will let you know...  Thanks
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Re: Low Power PCs
« Reply #32 on: March 20, 2013, 12:17:30 pm »

LOL hope your documenting every thing. ;>
Once you have it all up and running there'll be a few users wishing to do this and I'm sure you'll be swamped with questions.
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Re: Low Power PCs
« Reply #33 on: March 20, 2013, 05:16:14 pm »

LOL hope your documenting every thing. ;>
Once you have it all up and running there'll be a few users wishing to do this and I'm sure you'll be swamped with questions.
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That is a definite, I am watching the results very closely

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Re: Low Power PCs
« Reply #34 on: March 20, 2013, 05:51:15 pm »

OK, I uninstalled Pcc and then rebooted and then re-installed to my C:\ drive.  I then rebooted again.  Next time I got on, I tried to run Pcc - got an error that version 2... of .Net was needed.  I had only installed version 4.  So I tried installing version 2... and then rebooted and tried starting Pcc again. 

The icon appears in the tool bar and when I mouse over it it disappears.  I also checked the Event Logs and there are no entries.

So I dont know if I need to uninstall .Net 4.0 and install it again because the install of the 2.0 version messed something up or not?

Other than that, any ideas on what Pcc is trying to load which may be missing from my machine?

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Re: Low Power PCs
« Reply #35 on: March 21, 2013, 03:20:40 am »

if you got the message that version 2 of net was missing you installed the wrong net 4 you did not install the full version.
the full version installs 1,2,2.5,3,3.5,&4 Pcc needs some 3 and 3.5 stuff too.
Uninstall both versions of net do a net clean up then find net 4 full sounds like you installed the boot strap version.
there is a link to the full version on the PCC info page.
 
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Re: Low Power PCs
« Reply #36 on: March 21, 2013, 05:38:57 am »

OK...

Will give that a try...  Thanks
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Re: Low Power PCs
« Reply #37 on: March 21, 2013, 05:20:30 pm »

Did an uninstall and then clenaup of the .Net installs I had.  Then I tried to install the .Net 4 Full via the Link on the Pcc page.  It did not install successfully.  I checked the log and there was something about Windows Presentation Foundation Font Cache...  So I ran the cleanup utility again.

On the HP website for my Thin Client, there was an install package for the 2.0 SP1 .Net framework - suspecting that may install some other missing components I ran that.

Then I ran the 4.0 full install again and this time is completed successfully.  I did a commit and reboot.  Tried to start Pcc again and it did the same thing - icon in toolbar but when I put the cursor over it the icon goes away.

I tried re-installing Pcc - no good, same thing.

I checked the Add / Remove Programs on my thin client, here is the .Net entries:
.Net Framework 2.0 SP1
.Net Framework 4 Client Profile
.Net Framework 4 Extended

When I look on my Desktop machine (Full XP SP3) here are the .Net entries:
.Net Framework 1.1
.Net Framework 2.0 SP1
.Net Framework 3.0 SP2
.Net Framework 3.5
.Net Framework 4.0

Do I need to install the 1.1, 3.0 SP2 and 3.5 .Net Frameworks independently at this point?
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Re: Low Power PCs
« Reply #38 on: March 21, 2013, 10:55:02 pm »

Ok Looks like you installed the wrong net package.
Looks like this is the one you may need http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=17718
Also note in the •Prerequisites:
◦Windows Installer 3.1 or later: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=25
◦Internet Explorer 5.01 or later
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Re: Low Power PCs
« Reply #39 on: March 22, 2013, 07:23:18 pm »

I have tried several variations of trying to get the fill install (noted in the message above this one) with no success...

Here is the result of the last attempt - there is an install error log that comes up:

MSI (C:\cae64c665770db2c87497d\netfx_Extended_x86.msi) Installation failed. Msi Log: Microsoft .NET Framework 4 Setup_20130322_230800281-MSI_netfx_Extended_x86.msi.txt
[3/22/2013, 23:14:28]PerformOperation returned 1603 (translates to HRESULT = 0x80070643)

[3/22/2013, 23:14:28] Action complete

[3/22/2013, 23:14:28]Error 1603:1310 is mapped to Custom Error: Retry
[3/22/2013, 23:14:28]Retry 1 of 1 of custom error handling
[3/22/2013, 23:14:28]Retry count over existing limit, not going to retry again.
[3/22/2013, 23:14:28]OnFailureBehavior for this item is to Rollback.

[3/22/2013, 23:14:28] Action: Performing actions on all Items...

[3/22/2013, 23:14:28] Action complete

[3/22/2013, 23:14:28] Action complete

[3/22/2013, 23:14:28]Final Result: Installation failed with error code: (0x80070643), "Fatal error during installation. " (Elapsed time: 0 00:06:28).
[3/22/2013, 23:14:35]WM_ACTIVATEAPP: Focus stealer's windows WAS visible, NOT taking back focus

Not sure if that means anything to anyone or not...  But so far I have not been successful in getting the .Net 4.0 Framework installed....
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Re: Low Power PCs
« Reply #40 on: March 23, 2013, 04:01:28 am »

Is XP embedded SP3?
SP3 is required for NET 4.
I can put together a PCC build that uses net 3.5 I think ::) :`)
See if that will Install. If so I'll make a special build for net 3.5 and these thin Client machines.
Heck I do see interest in them!
I don't think I can go back to net 3 without losing to much.
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Re: Low Power PCs
« Reply #41 on: March 23, 2013, 09:50:36 am »

My version of XP Embedded had SP 3 (I am actually running XP Embeeded Standard 2009, which was a release after XP SP3, but in the System Properties it shows up as SP 3).

I was going to try one more thing - independently installing each of the .Net frameworks one at a time and see what happens that way...

Let me try that and then see how far I get.  I do like your idea as well, maybe even a thin client version of PCC that has only a subset of features?

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Re: Low Power PCs
« Reply #42 on: March 25, 2013, 05:20:55 pm »

Here's the latest...

I have been able to install .Net 2.0, 3.0 and 3.5 and update them via Windows Update (I had to install one update at a time, then reboot, then install another, until they were all installed - otherwise I wound end up with Pagefile issues).

I have not been able to install .Net 4.0 - either using the install link you provided or via the Windows Update link.  It either fails or I dont have enough free space to install.  So for now I am not going to try installing it again.

I do have ActiveHome installed and it has been running reliably as well as Yawcam.

I am going to install VNC Server as well because I am having issues trying to connect to the ThinClient via Windows Remote Desktop Connection when at work to home (its a firewall thing) and I have been able to connect using VNC before (I think it can be set up to use a different port).

So I am going to run those apps on the ThinClient now for a few days straight (I have been attempting installs so rebooting a lot over the last week).

If you happen to come up with a ThinClient of PCC that you want me to test let me know ...

NOTE:  I also found this tidbit of being able to test what .Net versions are installed on a PC by typing the following into an IE address:
javascript:alert(navigator.userAgent)

If I run this on my ThinClient, this is what I get now:
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0;Windows NT 5.1;.NET CLR 2.0.50727;.NET CLR 3.0.04506.648;.NET CLR 3.0.04506.2152;.NET CLR 3.5.30729)

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Re: Low Power PCs
« Reply #43 on: March 25, 2013, 05:50:42 pm »

I do have a early beta version of PCC 4 that I had compiled with net 3.5
I can possible use this as the starting block for a net3.5  thin client build.
X10Relayer still uses net 3.5 so you should be able to install and run that.
I'll see about putting a installer together for a PCC thin client beta.
I don't think there is much of PCC 4 in this code other then the main interface and VR
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Re: Low Power PCs
« Reply #44 on: March 26, 2013, 04:47:19 am »

OK, thanks...

send me an email when you are ready for me to test or I will check the board here every so often...
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